For a span of eight years, Jon Hamm existed in the collective consciousness as one character, and one character only: Don Draper. So it may not come as much of a surprise that, for a long time, casting agents exclusively offered him parts like the one he was already playing on Mad Men. What they didn’t know, but have since figured out, is that, despite possessing every bit as much charm as his most well-known character, Hamm is capable of so much more. In equal measure, he’s funny, philosophical, and honest, all of which shine through on this week’s episode of Table for Two, where he discusses, among other topics, what it was like listening to R-rated Redd Foxx LPs in the library at 10 years old, his parents dying when he was young, getting married at 52, and working with Tina Fey and John Slattery on his latest film. Hear a preview of the episode below, and subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts.

Episode 15: Jon Hamm

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