It was a crime and a trial that riveted New York and defined an era: the case of the Central Park jogger, when a young woman was brutally assaulted in the park in 1989. This week, Jeffrey Toobin discusses his eye-opening piece on how the fates of two people involved in that horrendous crime have taken shockingly divergent paths. And how the attack sparked Trump’s interest in politics. Then we have the incredible tale of the boy who fled Saigon as a 12-year-old refugee during the Vietnam War and has now returned as a Michelin-starred chef. It’s the stuff of a Hollywood epic, and Lloyd Grove tells us all about it. All this and more make this a show you won’t want to miss. Listen by clicking Play below. And be sure to subscribe at Apple Podcasts or Spotify so you don’t miss an episode.

Episode 145: The Chilling Crime That Fueled Trump’s Rise

Plus: the Vietnamese refugee who became a Michelin-starred chef; and more